Old vs new, which is best?

Having repaired more than 100 Kenwood Chefs, I compare newish and older machines. Which is best?

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Believe it or not, people do ask me which is best: New or old machines?

There is of course, no right or wrong answer and the answer will vary, depending on the product and application.

But since the question comes up from time-to-time, I thought I’d give my opinion on the matter and have a bit of fun with the subject, a kind of shoot-out if you will.

My illustration focuses on an old favourite of mine; the Kenwood Chef. My chosen opponents are a model from the early 1980s, the ubiquitous A901 Chef, made in England, and the much later 2000s KMC010 Chef, made in China.

The Chef is a good example for the shoot-out as the machine’s purpose hasn’t changed since it’s introduction to kitchens in the 1950s. Many Chef accessories produced over the years are interchangeable, owning to the foresight of good design.

Some people think that new machines are best and more capable while other people think older machines are best as they were built to last. Since I’ve dismantled, used and admired 100s of these machines, here’s my take.

Round 1 – Performance

Older Chefs are less powerful than newer machines. For example, the A901 has a 450W motor, whereas the later KMC010 has a much more powerful 1400W motor. This means than the newer machine will be more capable to mix more stodgy mixtures for longer. Counter intuitively, the more powerful machine may be more efficient for some loads, compared to the lower power one, although I’ve never measured this.

A901 – 0 KMC010 – 1

Round 2 – Noise (from the machine)

Kenwood has tended to favour evolution rather than revolution with their product progression. Many models available over the years appeared not to change much on the surface, but under the skin, small tweaks and improvements were taking place. So, in general, the newer the machine, the quieter they tend to be. There are some model variant exceptions to this, but the KMC010 is much quieter than my own good condition A901.

A901 – 0 KMC010 – 2

Oh dear, new things might be better after all..?

Round 3 – Durability

Now this is where things get interesting. Many of the machines I receive in my workshop for repair are getting on a bit. Some of them are over 40 years old. The machines have served their families well with faithful service.

Faulty older machines can often be turned around within a few hours in the workshop, to be back with the customer, to make more cakes. The A901 Chef is a tough old beast. The materials and finish rarely give any problems and major components rarely fail it seems.

KMC010 Chefs (and all newer models) that I see in the workshop are obviously much younger than the A901s. While very capable and powerful, sadly, they seem to have failed, often only with occasional light use.

Seemingly, it’s true what they say, the older machines were built to last and I base that purely on customer enquiries and items I see to repair every week. The newer machines often have features and buttons that don’t serve any real advantage, but have associated circuits which can and do go wrong, rendering the whole machine useless, if they fail.

A901 – 1 KMC010 – 2

Round 4 – Repairability

Now obviously, I am ‘repairability-biased’, this is a blog about repair after all. However, the facts speak for themselves. Older Chefs can be repaired with basic tools, reasonably priced components and a little know-how.

Newer Chefs, like the KMC010 are more complicated and have less user-serviceable parts. This makes otherwise serviceable machines far more likely to end up in the scrapyard with seemingly minor faults, that were too hard to diagnose and repair. The A901 wins hands down in the repairability stakes.

A901 – 2 KMC010 – 2

The feeling is tense and there’s an air of excitement as I get to call the decider on this slightly odd dual.

Round 5 – Value for money (the decider)

A new KMC010 Titanium costs over £600 today and it should be said that all Chefs are great machines and a worthy addition to any kitchen. However, a decent second-hand Chef from the 1960s to the early 1990s is a worthy contender for a tenth of the cost.

Have a look on eBay and you’ll see A701s, A701a, A901, A901E, KM200 model Chefs, starting at £40, often with many accessories. They’re just as useful and capable to serve most home needs. Indeed, I have a customer who uses her standard A901 in an industrial kitchen, every day, with no problems.

A901 – 3 KMC010 -2

The non-scientific conclusion…

  • Buy an older machine and take satisfaction that it will last generations, can be easily repaired and work with most accessories available now. Buying an older machine is probably less environmentally damaging than the manufacture of a new machine.
  • Buy a new machine and take satisfaction with additional performance and a manufacturers’ guarantee for the first year…

You know which machine I would buy…

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Author: fixitworkshop.co.uk

Hi, my name's Matt and I'm on a mission to save everyday items from the bin. Many things are repairable, but we've seemingly fallen out of love with mending things. I aim to fix that by publishing each repair I carry out in the hope that others will be inspired to repair their things and keep them for longer.

17 thoughts on “Old vs new, which is best?”

  1. You are spot on. Something I have been advocating for the past 2 years. I have seen it all. Titanium gearboxes that failed. I have even used A901/KM gears to replace gears in the Made in China machines.
    I just love to work on the A901’s. And the KM series.
    My A700’s are standing on the shelve. Project for another day.

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  2. I have an old I mean 1970/early 80′ Kenwood chef with K beater dough hook and whisk.
    It’s still working well but unfortunately very noisy.
    All I’ve done over the years is keep it clean and it still makes perfect meringue and Pavlova( I live in NZ) what can i do to reduce
    What can I do to reduce

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  3. Hi, my A901 started smoking today and smelt of burning. I stopped it immediately. Has it seen the end of its days?
    If yes will my attachments fit any of the new machines?
    Thank you

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    1. Thanks for your comment . No, it just needs a motor overhaul, that’s all. The 901 is a good machine, it just needs a service and repair after 40 odd years. Most of your attachments will fit a newer machine.

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    2. Thank you for your reply, do you know who would repair it in the Northamptonshire region or am I looking at contacting Kenwood.

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  4. Can I be cheeky and ask an old vs new feature question? I’m looking for an older chef for budgetary reasons (retired, so money tighter), but need a 7 litre model because it will mostly be used for community projects (e.g. pizza dough and cakes for a community centre and local churches). Can old a901 or a701 models accommodate 7 litre (or 6.7l, which I believe is the Kenwood XL standard) bowls, and if not, what unfussy, and reliable models would you recommend that will?

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  5. Hello I have an enquiry, like Enid above my old kenwood starmed smoking and stopped working mid mix of a Christmas cake..so I was frightened of electrocution and it went down the tip and replaced with a new kenwood patisserie MX3 series..which has never been a patch on the old monster (circa Fanny Craddock). I’ve noticed 8 years on its now not creaming marge and sugar successfully, leaving the fat mid way up the sides of the bowl..which it never used to do. Is it getting done and if so is it worth repair or should I get another second hand 70’s/80’s type one?
    Kindest regards Jonathon

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      1. Hello, I have in my possession a Model A717U. It is BRAND NEW, NEVER USED, STILL HAS ALL THE ATTACHMENTS. It’s all brand new, still with the seals on all of it. It’s 60 years old and in new condition. What is the value of this? I can’t find another one anywhere.I dont know how to sell it because it is one of a kind. Any information would be a great help to me. My number is 458-245-0257

        Warmest Regards

        Orlando Sanchez

        orlandolonnie@outlook.com

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  6. Hi there, I have a Kenwood Chef Mixer A703C and would like to know the year of manufacture please.

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  7. Hi, Would you say KMM020 is similar to KMC010 Chef in terms durability and repairability? Can you also replace KMM020’s parts with older models?

    How does KMM020 compare to the newer Sense series (e.g. Chef XL Sense) and Titanium series? I was thinking of “upgrading” to a newer model, but do the even newer models (Sense, and Titanium) have even more bells and whistles and internal components that are more likely to be unrepairable? Or are they similar to KMM020?

    Thanks

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